Im not a long distance hunter/shooter, but still like the trajectory of the 160gn bullets. Heres that data using his 24.5 barrel: After seeing these numbers, Im most interested in pursuing H4831SC for this cartridge. I apologize for the misunderstanding. Since this new cartridge has been announced, Ive talked with my contacts at many of the major rifle manufacturers and have been surprised by how many of them are extremely frustrated with working on PRC chamberings in their rifles. Ballistics and Drop for the 7mm Remington Magnum Cartridge Type: Rifle Height: 2.5" Width: 0.532" Average FPS: 3024 Average Energy: 3106 Average Gr: 153 Recoil: 2.06 Power Rank: 4.63 of 20 In the 1960's Remington created the 7mm Remington Magnum based of the 375 H&H cartridge design. Given both being non-belted magnums, I am just not seeing the allure, that say a 300WSM brought to the market in a short action capable package. Backfire was the first publication to put together a 7 PRC as soon as the SAAMI specs for the cartridge were released. I believe that should be a max load but still safe in my rifle, efficient loading, and impressive speed. I converted a Weatherby 6.5 PRC Meateater to the 7 PRC. How does the 7mm Rem Mag achieve such ballistics? With the ammo and reloading components markets starting to normalize, when do you think 7mm PRC ammo and reloading components will be available this year? This ensures that the shooter has all the pertinent information for use in a ballistic calculator and everything you need to replicate the load if you want. This difference in bullet shape can be quantified, and the comparison simplified to one numberthe Ballistic Coefficient, or BC. 223 Rem 53 gr. 1400 W Henry St
Ideal extreme powders? Current F-class are almost all .284 (another strangely missing cartridge in this articles comparison) which says something about what the disciplined shooters, regularly shooting out X-rings at 1000m, think. The following is a 500 yard 7mm Rem Magnum ballistic chart that was created using our free online ballistic calculator and details all aspects of the bullets trajectory from the millisecond it leaves the barrel until the time it reaches the 500 yd mark. 7 PRC is designed for shorter barrels. Were did you had your rifle made? Everything was sub 1/2 moa from 59.5 to 62 grains. I hope brass makers continue to make 7mm STW brass. But keep in mind she kicks more than the .308 and is harder on barrels, but is a nice compromise between the 308 and 300 Win Mag. I highly recommend Preferred Barrel Blanks for this job. Please let me know how it can be improved upon. Awesome article and information. It has more case capacity than the short, and is very similar to thr max. JavaScript is disabled. Looking forward to more. 2020 Sierra Bullets
If I add to that a gusty 25 mph wind, Im not shooting past 200 yards. Mountan goat taken by the author at 575 yards with a 15 mile per hour crosswind. Thanks again for the info. Again, weight of the bullet plays a large role in bucking wind. Maybe yall will find some magic power that will do likewise for the 7mm prc. Now I think that build is going to be a 7 PRC. Hey C3, Aren't Bases for long range higher in the rear as to give better muzzle elevation to scope alignment? Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. N560 offers some of the best velocities without a compressed load. Seriously, before anybody argues with me, watch the video and get out your calculators and figure it out for yourself. Very well done. We use cookies to provide you a better user experience. Here is my info: 3040 FPS, 160 accubond at .531 b/c, 50 degrees and 5000ft. (About 19.5 inches). Better to pass on a questionable shot. The 7mm PRC will beat the following cartridges in sales over the next 20 years: 280AI, Gunwerks LRM, and the 7mm Rem Mag. 375" drop w/ 100 yard zero. Well, that would limit most hunting rifles to between 150 and 400-yards. Mag. There are no bullets below the 0.284 caliber with a ballistic coefficient higher than the 7mm. The maximum effective range of the 6.5 PRC for hunting is approximately 730 yards, at which distance many bullets will slow below 1,900 fps which can cause a bullet to fail to expand. 61.6 grains H4831sc with 195 berger gives 2975fps. 2950fps with 32 inch barrel. Decreasing wind deflection is a very important part of precise long range shooting. Cool round. To do load development before this speed up happens will render the load development useless. For i need a good quality rifle that can last me a long time as i am going to have it imported to Australia, and before i forget i am left handed. Hornady has made the perfect 7mm case. If it performs like my 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC, Im guessing it will be a winner too. Also, any chance you could add 270wsm to the tables? Couple questions for you. Very impressive ballistics. Looking at your H4831sc chart Im a little faster at 62.7grs than what you had at 63grs. Thanks. The only other company Ive seen with die sets is Whidden Gunworks. Seriously, its by far the nicest die set Ive ever ownedand Ive tried just about every brand out there. 7mm Remington Magnum ~ 150 Grain ~ Trajectory Chart Trajectory for Custom .284 7mm Mag Ammo #4550 at 3000 Feet per Second At an Elevation Angle of: 0 degrees Ballistic Coefficients of: 0.545 0.515 0.515 0.515 0.515 Velocity Boundaries (Feet per Second) of: 2200 2200 2200 2200 If you own one of these items you are free to ship them to us for programing. I have a complete article on the best rifles available now in 7mm PRC. Ive got it sending the 162 grain ELD-X 3200 FPS. If you want to max things out, you need a bullet that will expand at lower velocities. RCC brass and Manson reamer. This information is provided to the shooter as well. Input your hunting conditions to see the drop, drift, bullet trajectory, velocity, and energy in easy-to-read ballistics charts and graphs. The two most important variables are the Initial Velocity and the Ballistic Coefficient. Whos reamer did you use? First, lets take a look at H4831SC powder loaded with a 175gr ELD-X bullet. Look up bergerbullets.com. A 10 MPH wind will move a bullet about 10-12 feet laterally. Most people will like 22, but I like em short! Thank you. I mentioned that a bullet may not perform well under 2,000 fps. External ballistics covers everything that happens during a bullet's flight between the muzzle of the rifle, and the target. Its a direct thread. So far, my favorite powder for reloading the 7 PRC is H4831SC using standard large rifle primers. Re#26 69 grs pushes a 162 gr A- max 3225 fps. This load has been optimized in Shoot! What we have here is failure- to communicate. Freedom is not free. Will be interested in seeing which manufacturers chamber this round. Thats why knowledge of 7mm Rem Mag Ballistics is so important. I watch all your videos. You have stated several times you would not use 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC for large game like elk. This setup is for long range target shooting. Great stuff. I keep watching to see everyones long term thoughts and hunting performance. It produces 1,500 ft-lbs of energy for elk-sized game out to 510 yards, and 1,000 ft-lbs for deer-sized game to 810 yards. Made my own dies. It will a produce a line graph showing the bullet drop and flight path of the bullet. Did you perhaps mean 50 cm? I am kind of waiting to find some Hornady brass to work up my official load. They use Berger 168 gr VLD (Very Low Drag) bullets. Was nice to see your wife in the last video. Itll get tons of penetration and you could shoot that light of a bullet VERY fast. The 6.5 Creedmoor has long been known to cause damage to the International Space Station with errant shots. As long as its a standard long-action, you should be just fine putting a 7 PRC barrel on it. Its an incredibly popular cartridge, but over time, I expect the 7 PRC to overtake it.if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_7',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_8',175,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0_1'); .box-4-multi-175{border:none !important;display:block !important;float:none !important;line-height:0px;margin-bottom:15px !important;margin-left:auto !important;margin-right:auto !important;margin-top:15px !important;max-width:100% !important;min-height:250px;min-width:250px;padding:0;text-align:center !important;}. We analyzed 6 different loads for each cartridge (the proper way to read that sentence is Jim sat at a computer for WEEKS putting data into very complicated Excel sheets) to come out with an average of what several common loads for each cartridge will accomplish. This package can be added onto any rifle bought through Evovled Ballistics. Sorry man, wasn't going after anyone, it's a hotly contested issue around the guys I run with, guess i just assumed it would be here too. The challenge of loading for any of the PRC cartridges is the extremely tight tolerances. Thanks for all the helpful info on the 7PRC. I always run a suppressor would like to see 20 with suppressor vs 24 with break. Ok ya that makes sense. We've measured the reference system to be on the order of eight inches at 1000 yards, but because of its exponential dependency on time of flight the 1500 yard drift could be as much as five feet! I chose to put a Proof barrel on and had an M16 extractor installed and am very happy with the results. In fact, Id guess that 60% of the new hunting rifles in most gun stores today are chambered in a cartridge designed by Hornady. Worked up load with 195 bergers. Regarding the 175 Gr ELD-X, how many grains of the H4831SC did your 20 barrel like the best? I contacted you about my 6.5 Fierce CT Rival that was having extraction and barrel pressure problems like you were. Thats a dead whitetail deer out to 1200 yards lol. Ballistic Table Ron Spomer 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24" bl. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. The recoil of the 7mm PRC produces 27.7 ft-lbs of energy at a recoil velocity of 14.1 fps. However, hunters who choose to use gear that does not meet this standard are often forced to either make an unethical shot or to pass up shot opportunities when the elk isnt turned the right way. The 7mm Rem Mag is available from 139-175 grains, while the .300 Win Mag is available anywhere from 15-230 grains. The PowerRank is an estimation of the cartridge power. After that velocity diminishes very quickly. Altitude: 0 Feet with a Standard Atmospheric Model. With the Gunwerks Ballistic Turret dial to 575 yards, he held right on.For long range shooting, there are two very evident factors that affect the bullet's flight. Shooting Conditions in the Mountains can be hard to determine. Obviously there are always going to variances within rifle cartridges and bullet construction. Winchester told me they arent planning a series. Seldom is the practical max the same as the true max distance. Based on the 7mm PRC data you shared, would you use the 7mm PRC for elk and large North American game? The 7 RM is too established to go away similar to how the 300 PRC didnt completely eliminate 300 WM sales nor did they likely affect 30-06 sales. Maybe one day you could get a donor barrel from a sponsor, and cut it down in the field (no recrown) every inch from 28 down to 18 to see what all the velocities are? @Jim Harmer I know this is a very hard list to compile, I do appreciate your attempts to educate in a common sense way. While the 7mm 168 grain VLD would only need 3100 fps at the muzzle to match that 2000 fps velocity at 1000 yards. N NomadPilot Well-Known Member Joined Barrel Break In: All barrels will increase in speed. for a 6 inch vital zone (typical of a whitetail deer). Thankyou for report off the 7mm PRC as I have been searching for since I saw the SAAMI specification. An inch is no big deal even if you're shooting squirrels in the head. I used CCI large magnum rifle primers, and lovingly caressed each bullet before sending it on the ride of its life. There are 100s of different 7mm Rem Mag factory ammunition loads and bullets to choose from in Shoot! We can minimize the effects from Magnus and Corriolis for sub 1000 yard shooting by zeroing at a longer range like 800 yardswhile pointing north or south. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Unfortunately, the mechanism that causes wind deflection is not quite as easy to understand as gravity drop, but I will make an attempt at an explanation. Your email address will not be published. On game heavier than 320kg, the 7mm RM is capable of producing adequate penetration but not wide wounding relative to body weights. Last, I shot Accurate Magpro powder with the same 175gr ELD-X and CCI large magnum primer out of a 24 test barrel. Further comparison shows that is flies faster than either of the 3 other rounds, and only the 270 Win beats it in terms of average power, but the 7mm is the victor in the average energy as well having 3106 lbs of force from muzzle. Guessing and sighter shots have no place in todays hunting ethic. Recommendation: The 7mm is recommended for military applications out to 1000+ meters. The first is simple to measure and compensate for. The following table compares the 7 PRC to several other cartridges using Hornadys Precision Hunter line of ammunition. Interestingly, I loaded 61.2 grains of H4831SC in a 7mm Remington Magnum, and a 7mm PRC. There would be 226 inches drop at 1000 ft elevation compared to 207 inches at 8000 ft; and 52 inches deflection versus 40. I currently shoot a 300 Win Mag. All the scopes I like seam to be out of my price affordability. L. Neil Smith, at a 200 yard zero with a Hornady SST 162 gr your looking at 34.8" drop @ 500 beyond that it really really falls off quickly after that range . I have a winchester model 70 in a 7mm mag if im shooting 100 grain bullets what kind pf drop would i expect at 1000 yards. (They are the only company that has any 7PRC brass that I know of. But, if you arent able to get things perfectly lined up for just long enough to pull the trigger and follow through a smidge, let it go. There are quite a few variables that all work to decrease the true potential of a rifle. Copyright 2023 ShootersCalculator.comALL rights reserved. Jim, I enjoy that you use your platform to provide reliable data to ethically take animals. The bullet with the lowest expansion threshold is Nosler Accubond Long Range, which expands starting at 1300 fps. ballistics app/software that you can understand and use in the field (either target shooting or hunting). Mag. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! *Casing image above is an artist rendering and not a real photo of 7mm Remington Magnum Ballistics cartridge. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Please keep the good stuff coming. Hi Jim, The first, and most obvious is the effect of gravity. Important Note: This is anecdotal testing. I really do like what you and your contributing crew are doing. Im not sure that muzzle velocity would have helped this discussion, though. 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